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WoW Forever Subtlety Rogue Guide

Choose how the fight starts from Stealth. Use your opener, control and retreat tools to create the next opportunity.

Updated: 30 October 2026

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Dungeons

Agree on which enemy you will take out of the fight and which casts you will stop. Keep bleeds on the main target, not on controlled adds that would immediately rejoin the fight.

Before the first pull

Agree on the main target and your interrupts before the pull. Check which enemies will be controlled, and wait for secure tank threat before starting area damage.

Combat priorities

  1. Choose an opener for the assignment.

  2. Keep Energy for control and follow-up.

  3. Use Vanish and Preparation as a planned second chance.

What to watch for

Deal with dangerous enemies first. A stopped cast and a controlled enemy left untouched often help more than extra area damage.

Using your abilities and resources

Use a defensive before predictable damage. Offensive cooldowns pay off when the target will live long enough and you can safely keep attacking.

Choosing useful gear

Keep your weapons up to date and make your hits reliable. Choose useful offensive stats without giving up the ability to stay safely on target.

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Raids

Save your strong attacks for time you can actually hit the boss. When an important add appears, prepare your next actions for that target.

Before the first pull

Check target switches and movement before the fight. Plan offensive abilities for time you can spend attacking, and let the tank establish the pull.

Combat priorities

  1. Fit openers and bleeds to the encounter.

  2. Plan Preparation around the tools it actually resets; it is not a blanket reset for every cooldown.

What to watch for

Switch to an important add even when your rotation is going well. Prepare resources for the switch and use downtime to find a better position.

Using your abilities and resources

Use offensive abilities during reliable attack time. Reconsider if you are about to move away from the target. Keep an appropriate defensive ready for predictable damage.

Choosing useful gear

Keep your weapons up to date and make your hits reliable. Choose useful offensive stats without giving up the ability to stay safely on target.

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PvP

Attack with your team and keep a way back. Line up damage and control so a good opening is not wasted on a target you cannot reach or one using strong defenses.

Before you engage

Pick a shared target and agree on control. Engage when your team can follow, and keep a position your healer can still reach.

Combat priorities

  1. Plan escape, control target and follow-up before opening.

  2. Bleeds can break Blind and other fragile control; a clean reset also requires pets and allies to stop attacking.

What to watch for

Watch the enemy’s control and defensive abilities. A target switch or helping your healer can do more than continuing to hit the best-protected enemy.

Using your abilities and resources

Commit offensive abilities when control and range let you attack. Keep a defensive answer for the counterattack and adjust when the enemy uses protection.

Choosing useful gear

Keep your weapons up to date and make your hits reliable. Choose useful offensive stats without giving up the ability to stay safely on target.

Talent priorities

Talent priorities

Open these talents in the calculator to read what they do and check their requirements.

Ghostly StrikePremeditationPreparationHemorrhageThousand Cuts
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Racial abilities for your class
  • Human · Ruthless

    Increases spell and ability critical strike chance by 1%, regardless of weapon type.

  • Human · The Human Spirit

    Increases Spirit by 10%.

  • Dwarf · Artisan’s Precision

    Increases hit chance with spells and attacks by 1%.

  • Orc · Blood Fury

    Increases attack power and spell power by 10% for 15 seconds. Cooldown: 2 minutes.

  • Orc · Command

    Increases damage dealt by Hunter and Warlock pets by 5%.

  • Undead · Touch of the Grave

    Damaging spells and attacks can drain Health. Proc chance: 30% for casters, 20% for Paladins, Rogues and Warriors; internal cooldown 15 seconds. Does not scale with Shadow-damage increases.

  • Troll · Berserking

    Increases spell casting and attack speed by 10% for 15 seconds.

  • Skyborne · Read Ley Line

    Alliance: increases Health and Mana regeneration by 50% for 15 seconds. Using it at a leyline grants Attuned for 1 hour, raising the bonus to 100%. Attuned persists through death. Cannot be used during Innervate; Innervate replaces the effect. Castable while moving. Removed on entering a raid.

  • Skyborne · Skysight

    Horde: increases movement speed by 15% for 15 seconds. Using it at an elemental convergence grants Charged for 1 hour, raising the bonus to 30%. Charged persists through death. Castable while moving. Removed on entering a raid.

  • Skyborne · Wind Blessed

    Increases melee, ranged and spell haste by 2%.

Racial abilities for your class
Sources & data

The playstyle advice is editorial. Abilities and talents have been checked against our Forever client data and Blizzard’s development notes.

New abilities keep their English name where no reliable translation is available.

Client 1.60.1.70532 · Chris Baldwin / talentsforever.com · CC BY 4.0 · adapted